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S.ravi
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 Posted - 11/18/2008 : 08:42:50
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First, let us discuss whether the so-called full neutralization for inflation is really a100 percent neutralization and a foolproof protection against the erosion in real wages. The following factors need to be kept in view. (i). The very compilation of the data to measure inflation or the price indices are suspect and do not reflect the actual ground realities which workers and employees are faced with. With increase in price indices, the workers/employees face erosion in the actual pay. (ii). The formula of six monthly accounting on an average of last 12 month always keeps the wages at the level which were due12 months back and by the dearness relief is granted , the prices are several points higher. (iii) The grant of D.A. does not in anyway reflect the several other factors that have an effect on the social equilibrium. The growth in GDP and increasing purchasing power of the others with whom the workers/employees are juxtaposed, renders them vulnerable. (iv) The workers are entitled to benefits and amenities essential for a decent leaving including proper health and education facilities. (v) The DA factor is a weak umbrella that provides partial protection against erosion in wages-full neutralization not withstanding. More over it does not guarantee the share of the workers/employees in the national cake. Therefore, there is a pressing need to revise the pay scales. (All India Central Council of Trade Unions (AICCTU) Delhi)
Yes. The neutralization of inflation is based on the cost of living index which does not and cannot reflect the actual inflation that takes place. In the case of Central Government employees, unlike in the case of the other sections of the organized working class, the compensation is based on the all India annual average index figure, which has an inbuilt mechanism of suppressing the said compensation. This apart, the changes in the consumption pattern affected over a period of time have to be an important criterion for wage determination. Change in Market Price is not the sole factor for Pay revision. To cope with the 10 years of general development of country, to keep pace with the surrounding environment and its economic development the pay commission must be set up. (All India EDP Employees Group 'C' Association Kolkata)
The rate of inflation is worked out keeping diverse factors and inputs in view. Many of these have no bearing on everyday life of an individual. The DA does not compensate for" the total cost of price rise for commodities being used daily by an individual. Therefore, the pay scales need to be revised after DA reaches the level of 50% of the basic pay. The effect of price rise in day to day commodities is not felt by Armed Forces as they are provided free rations in kind, though, monetary compensation in lieu of free rations is only Rs. 19001- per month, the market value of the commodities given free would be more than Rs. 40001- per month. This differentiation can act as a base for working out domestic inflation in place of rate of inflation being worked out by the government. Therefore, 100% neutralization of inflation is a misnomer so far as a house wife is concerned. (Armed Forces Headquarters Civil Service Direct Recruit Gazetted Officers Association)
Setting up Pay Commissions time and again and repeating the whole exercise again and again is not advisable. The increase in pay should be automatic based on the inflation. However there is no bar in setting up Pay Commission if situation so warrants in future. The present system is not only granting political mileage but also putting the exchequer into colossal expenditure and depriving the employees from their dues in time. (Aviation Technical Personnel Aviation Research Centre New Delhi)
Ans. Yes, there is need to revise pay scales periodically. The idea that inflation is neutralized 100% is mistaken. The inflation is calculated based on wholesale price index and the items taken into account make a miniscule percentage of spending. (Indian Forest Service Association Dehradun Unit Forest Research Institute Dehradun)
Yes, it is required to maintain the relationship between the frequency of increment and DA and need of the compensation to the employees in time. The pay scales should be revised after every 10 years period through the pay commission as being followed now a days. (All India Radio & Doordarshan Engineers Association)
Yes. In reality there is no 100% neutralization of the inflation, because the calculation of the AICPI is flawed. Further increasing standards of life invariably causes increase in requirements/needs leading to increase in expenses and monitory difficulties. This is the reason why employees are agitating, going for strikes etc and as a result so many Pay Commissions were constituted in the past. (Atomic Energy Retirees Welfare Association All India Pensioners Association Navi Mumbai)
Yes The neutralization of inflation is based on the cost of living index, which does not and cannot reflect the actual inflation that takes place In the case of Central Government employees, unlike in the case of the other sections of the organized working class, the compensation is based on the all India annual average index figure, which has inbuilt mechanism of suppressing the said compensation This apart, the changes in the consumption pattern affected over a period of time have to be an important criterion for wage determination. (National Atlas and Thematic Mapping Organisation Employees' Association Kolkata)
The 100% neutralization for inflation was made available to the Group 'A' Officers (pre-revised). All employees below the basic pay of Rs.3500/-were already having 100% neutralization for inflation. The periodical revision is based on revision of allowances and perks for various components of wages to Government employees, which depends on increase in the standard of living of the society and also paying capacity of the Government. The dearness allowance granted to Government employees does not compensate fully the devaluation of the Rupee, because of this the 100% neutralization do not fully componsato tho pay packet of the Government employees and the value of pay and allowances decided today become obsolete over a period of time and hence pay-revision is inevitable. Neutralization of inflation is calculated on the basis of Index number, which is derived taking into prices of items included into fix basket and this fix basket become obsolete after certain period of time. Moreover, the neutralization does not change the existing structure of pay scales, which needs periodical revision. (India Security Press and Currency Note Press Staff Union Nasik)
The pay scales should be revised after every 10 years period through the central pay commission keeping all factors into account as being followed now a days. (Association of Radio and Television Engineering Employees (ARTEE) New Delhi)
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S.ravi
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Posted - 11/18/2008 : 08:44:09
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Periodical revision of pay scales is essential to improve the working condition of an employees whose source of income is only salary drawn by him. Due to economic progress of the country price index goes high and at the same time cost of living jumps up hence all progressive government constitute pay commission for revision of pay scales and other requisites. (All India Medical Laboratory Technologists Association New Delhi)
Nil comments (Indian Naval Civilian Design Officers Association)
Yes, there is a need to revision, as it would cope up with fast changing requisits. (Central Ordnance Depot Jabalpur)
It is a fast changing world. Improvement must be there all round. Is it enough to give food and abode, but not give enough to make life more comfortable, with health care compensation. Periodic revision is a must. (All Pensioners Association and Senior Citizen Council Chennai)
Yes ! As discussed above inflation leads to increase in the D.A. of the government employees. After a certain limit of such increase, it becomes essential to neutralize the D.A. in the basic pay scale of the employee. Thus, periodical revision of pay scale is necessitated. (Bihar Sahakarita Padhadhikari Sangh Patna)
Yes (All India Railwaymen's Federation)
There is a necessity to revise the pay scale periodically as this is done keeping in mind several other factors like changing role of several posts, implementation of technology and duties and responsibilities. Like any other segment of management of government the human resource of the government should also be reviewed and pay scales changed periodically to cope with the changing environment. (Pondicherry University Officers Association (PUOA) Pondicherry)
Yes. There is a need to revise pay scales periodically. Inflation is just one of the factors that is considered when pay revision is done. Other factors, such as salaries offered by comparable employers, also come into play. Also, there is continued need for a periodic Pay Commission. Pay is just one among the many areas, such as performance , cadre management, training, honing up of skills etc that a Pay Commission deliberates upon. DA provided is based on WPI, whereas real cost of living is based on Consumer Price Index (CPI). Moreover, the credibility of inflation figures are at low ebb because of removal of price sensitive commodities like onion etc. from the basket of goods considered for assessing inflation. (Federation of Railway Officers' Association New Delhi)
Dearness allowance compensates the deviation of market price caused by inflation, which on the other hand is being calculated on the basis of wholesale price index instead of consumer price index thereby causing a differential paradox. Therefore the demand of 100% neutralization for inflation by DA is an absurd imagination and the question of requirement in periodical non-reversal of pay scales doesn *t arise at all (Eastern Railway Engineers' Association New Delhi)
The revision of pay scale comprises revision of the pay structure as a whole Dearness Allowance is only one of the components which is being computed based on Whole Sale Price Index. The revision of pay is required for up gradation of living standard of the employees keeping in view the overall economic growth, upgradation of the standard of living of society. (Drawing Staff Association Central Electricity Authority)
Yes, the demand for 100% neutralization for inflation is un-realistic and the actual scenario are different. It can be noticed that the actual consumer price index figure is much higher than the compensation figure. Though, we strongly believe on the Permanent Pay Review Committee, instead of Pay Commission. This Committee works under the Chairmanship of Retired Supreme Court Judge and under the direct control of Prime Minister’s Office. The Committee will review the pay scales & other facilities and the service conditions after every 3 years. (All India Customs Ministerial Officer's Association Kolkata)
After taking into account the following two recommendations and conducting a review in 2010, we may do away with periodic pay revisions:-. (a) It would be appropriate that as soon as DP+DA reach 100%, the pay scales should be revised automatically thereby making DA start from zero once again. Generally speaking, there should be no any requirement for the setting up of a Pay Commission only on account of this. However, the economy has been growing at the rate of approximately 8-9% of GDP in last few years and there are enough indicators that it would maintain this trend in future. Hence, the Govt by neutralizing the inflation from time to time is addressing the problem only to a partial extent. (b) It is strongly recommended that the pay package should also factor in the yearly growth of 8 to 9 %of GDP to arrive at the dynamic pay package which is addressing both the inflation and existing market conditions due to high economic growth. It is therefore recommended that a formula be devised to dynamically revise all allowances, linking them to Pay+DA and GDP growth. Only if this is done will the need for revision be reduced. (Army War College M P)
There is every need to revise pay scales periodically even when there is 100% neutralisation of inflation in the form of Dearness Allowance. Dearness Allowance only compensates inflation and nothing else. 100% neutralisation of inflation means, if a person moves on a bicycle, he will continue to move on that bicycle if only 100% neutralisation of inflation is maintained. He will never move from bicycle to a motor cycle or onwards. Had there been no revision of pay scales since independence and only 100% neutralisation of inflation was maintained then even a Cabinet Secretary might have been moving on bicycle today. With growing years one needs better and decent lifestyle. Static life style simply reduces efficiency. So it is very essential to revise pay scales (Geological Survey of India Group A Geology Stream Specific Problems Lucknow)
Yes, there should be periodical revisions in the pay scales. (CPWD Architects Association New Delhi)
100% neutralization of inflation appears to be done apparently but in actual practice inflation is never neutralized if compared with the increase in the cost of each and every commodity available in the market. If Government increases Rs. 5/- the employee concerned incurs Rs. II-already in the period before increase was allowed by the Government. There need to be a mechanism of periodical revision of pay scales of employees working in Government, Autonomous , Statutory and in public (undertaking)organizations, in a predefined time framed. (Central Council of Homoeopathy Anusandhan Bhawan Janak Puri New Delhi)
There is very much need to revise the pay scales periodically at least once in every 5 years instead of 10 years, presently observed, so that anomalies eliminated and court cases where ever discrimination meted shall be averted. (All india EME Civilian Personnel Association Secunderabad)
Yes, the pay scales should be revised in every 5 years to avoid brain drain and for living better lifestyle. The grant of D.A. is not sufficient to maintain the existing lifestyle, as the time passes, the social and obligatory duty of employees increase such as expenditure on education/marriage of children, purchase of household goods, etc. (The Ministerial Staff of CBI ACB Patna)
Periodical revision of scales is essential to give a morale boost to the employees and also to rectify anomalies if any creeping in to the system for various reasons. (All India MES Barrack and Stores Cadre Association New Delhi)
Yes. (All India Central Government Employees Association Mumbai)
Yes, in order to rationalization of pay, it is required. (Geological Survey of India Staff Union Kolkata)
Pay must be fixed in the revised pay scales on a point-to-point basic, keeping strictly in view the seniors are not placed at a disadvantageous position in respect of juniors. Pay should be fixed in the revised pay scales on a point to point basic, keeping strictly in view the senior persons are not placed at a disadvantageous position in respect of juniors. (A.I.R.P. Association (BXR Branch) Buxar)
Yes. Some factors like CCA, HRA, special allowances and change in economic condition need structural change of Pay scales. (Scientific Service Association New Delhi)
12.1 Yes. There is every need to revise the pay scales periodically especially when 100% neutralization for inflation is available in form of dearness allowance. After a lapse of certain period of time every condition of the soci-economic strata of the Society changes by leaps and bounds and upstages all the previous conditions. (India Stationery Office Mazdoor Union Kolkata)
This has been clearly answered by the previous Pay commission which has recommended that there should be such a revision by appointment of Next Pay commission after a period of TEN years. The Indian Labour organisation has firmly declared that the Pay Scales revision should be made whenever the Dearness Allowance reaches the 50% mark. Further, the Dearness allowance is not taken into account for other benefits, such as Pensionary Calculations, Death - cum Gratuity, Commutation, Family Pension, and also for the classification of Cadres, as well as House Rent Allowance etc. (All Bharat Confederation of Senior Citizens & Pensioners)
Yes. The reasons are as follows: a) 100% neutralization of hike in price, in effect does not increase the salary fixed at and pegged with a particular index number. It only compensates the erosion of purchasing capacity of salary oncefixed. It may so happen that the salary once fixed was not proper and justified. And this is an irrefutable reality in almost all the cases in our country, b) Cent percent compensation is not available to the employees in our country as yet as because the existing concept of cent percent neutralization is deceptive. Here erosion of purchasing capacity of basic pay is taken into account but not of the D. A. c) Method of computing Consumer Price Index (CPI) is defective. A general trend of concealing the actual price hike has been noticed and repeatedly pointed out by the Trade Union Movement, d) Consumer's Basket does not reflect the reality, e) Even if the wrongs and inadequacies as pointed out in this paragraph are corrected, the need of Periodical Pay Revision will remain unchanged. It must be kept in mind that with the change of time, human needs are changing; updating of needs and consequent upgradation of living conditions is an ongoing process in human society. Endless onward March of the humanity is the established scientific law of continuous development of society and civilization. In view of this, upgradation of economic level and earnings of the workers and employees commensurate to the development of society is essential. Hence, the need of Regular and Periodical Revision of Pay is an irrefutable need of the society. (Central Secretariat Official Language Service Federation New Delhi)
Yes, there is need for periodical revision of pay scale to jeep pace with scales with development of country and charges in economic scenario. There are various factors for review/determine service condition/roles of employee, requiring periodical revision of pay scale. A permanent wage body should be constituted as recommended in para 21 of III CPC. Price inflation/calculation of price index does not cover/or reflect true state of affair. Moreover the revision of pay scale should be based for a particular grade after maintaining horizontal and vertical anomalies causing due to various revisions and changes in duties/responsibilities and extra qualification of a grade, The pay and front sments of an employee ^ >4re not merely personal to him but had an element social contents to achieving concept of social welfare as per constitution of India, which require changes/revision in pay scales for changing society. (All India Federation of Senior Audit Officers and Audit Officers Allahabad)
100% NEUTRALISATION OF INFLATION MAKES THE PAY SCALE IRRELEVANT. HENCE, A REVISION IS SUGGESTED. (Burdwan University Officers' Association)
Periodical revision of pay scales is required but it should not be too frequent. (K.V.S Retired Employee's Society Jaipur)
Yes. The neutralization of inflation is based on the cost of living index which does not and cannot reflect the actual inflation that takes place. In the case of Central Govt employees, unlike in the case of the other sections of the organized working class, the compensation is based on the All India Annual Average Index figure, which has an inbuilt mechanism of suppressing the said compensation. (Survey of India Stenographers' Forum New Delhi)
The 100% neutralization for inflation was made available to the Group 'A' Officers (pre-revised). Ail employees below the basic pay of Rs.3500/- were already having 100% neutralization for inflation. The periodical revision is based on revision of allowances and perks for various components of wages to Government employees, which depends on increase in the standard of living of the society and also paying capacity of the Government. The dearness allowance granted to Government employees does not compensate fully the devaluation of the Rupee, because of this the 100% neutralization do not fully compensate the pay-packet of the Government employees and the value of pay and allowances decided today become obsolete over a period of time and hence pay-revision is inevitable. Neutralisation of inflation is calculated on the basis of Index number, which is derived taking into prices of items included into fix basket and this fix basket become obsolete after certain period of time. Moreover, the neutralization does not change the existing structure of pay scales, which needs periodical revision. (Bhartiya Postal Administrative Offices Employees Union Group C&D New Delhi)
Yes. It is not a fact that dearness in the prices of essential commodities is 100% neutralized by Dearness Allowance. Had it been so, why the purchasing capacity of Govt. employees, despite increase in amount of salary, is getting reduced day by day? The reasons for this are as follows: (a) 100% neutralization of hike in price, in effect, does not increase the salary fixed at and pegged with a particular index number. It only compensates the erosion of purchasing capacity of salary once fixed. It may so happen that the salary once fixed was not proper and justified. And this is an irrefutable reality in almost all the cases in our country; (b) Cent percent compensation is not available to the employees in our country as yet because the existing concept of cent percent neutralization is deceptive. Here erosion of purchasing capacity of basic pay is taken into account but not that of the DA; (c) Method of computing Consumer Price Index (CPI) is defective. A general trend of concealing the actual price-hike has been noticed and repeatel pointed out by the Trade Union Movement; (d) Consumer's Bas)M does not reflect the reality; (e) Even if the wrongs and inadequacil as pointed out in this paragraph are corrected, the need a* Periodical Pay Revision will remain unchanged. It must be kept in mind that with the change of time, human needs are changing; updating of needs and consequent upgradation of living conditions is an ongoing process in human society. Endless onward March of the humanity is the established scientific law of continuous development of society and civilization. In view of this, upgradation of economic level and earnings of the workers and employees commensurate to the development of society is essential. Hence, the need of Regular and Periodical Revision of Pay is an irrefutable need of the society. (Central Secretariat Clerks' Association New Delhi)
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S.ravi
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Posted - 11/18/2008 : 08:45:20
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The reasons are as follows: a) 100% neutralization of hike in price, in effect does not increase the salary fixed at and pegged with a particular index number. It only compensates the erosion of purchasing capacity of salary once fixed. It may so happen that the salary once fixed was not proper and justified. And this is an irrefutable reality in almost all the cases in our country. b) Cent percent compensation is not available to the employees in our country as yet as because the existing concept of cent percent neutralization is deceptive. Here erosion of purchasing capacity of basic pay is taken into account but not of the D. A. c) Method of computing Consumer Price Index (CPI) is defective, which does not reflect the market reality. A general trend of concealing the actual price hike has been noticed and repeatedly pointed out by the Trade Union Movement. d) Consumer’s Basket does not reflect the reality. e) Even if the wrongs and inadequacies as pointed out in this paragraph are corrected, the need of Periodical Pay Revision will remain unchanged. It must be kept in mind that with the change of time, human needs are changing; updating of needs and consequent upgradation of living conditions is an ongoing process in human society. Endless onward March of the humanity is the established scientific law of continuous development of society and civilization. In view of this, upgradation of economic level and earnings of the workers and employees commensurate to the development of society is essential. Hence, the need of Regular and Periodical Revision of Pay is an irrefutable need of the society. Also the time period should be reduced to four years as prevalent in Banking, Insurance and Public Sector. (Central Govt Non Gazetted Employees Union Shastri Bhavan New Delhi)
Yes, a periodical revision of pay scales is necessary. For terminal benefits and pension the element of D.A is not counted . DA given does not fully neutralize the increased cost of living due to inflation. Revision of pay considering the changed condition of social setup and needs is necessary to provide proper pay. It is necessary to be comparable to the market pay scales. It should also take into consideration of higher level of knowledge and skill acquired by staff during the passing of years. Periodical revision of pay is very necessary. (A G Chacko General Secretary AIFPA Chennai)
No. It is suggested that at the time of 50% Dearness Allowance, the process of pay revision may be started. Before implementation of Pay Commission, the employees who are retiring, the pay should be fixed for pension including the Dearness Allowance at the time. (Central P.W.D. Staff Association Kolkata)
The present status of revision i.e. when the DA exceeds 50% of the basic pay should be merged with basic pay. This is necessary because the post retirement benefits arc all determined on the basis of basic pay. As the money itself getting looser by 10% on average per year in its real purchase/exchange capacity, this necessitates the revision of pay (Zoological Survey of India Gazetted Officers' Association Kolkata)
Yes. The neutralization of Inflation Is based on the cost of living index which does not and cannot reflect the actual Inflation that takes place. In the case of Central Government employees, unlike in the case of the other sections of the organized working class, the compensation Is based on the all India annual average Index figure, which has an inbuilt mechanism of suppressing the said compensation. This apart, the changes In the consumption pattern affected over a period of time have to be an important criterion for wage determination. (All India Defence Accounts Employees' Association (HQ) Kolkata)
Yes. The neutralization of inflation is based on the cost of living index, which does not and cannot reflect the actual inflation that takes place. In the case of Central Government employees, unlike in the case of the other sections of the organized working class, the compensation is based on the all India annual average index figure, which has an inbuilt mechanism of suppressing the said compensation. This apart, the changes in the consumption pattern affected over a period of time have to be an important criterion for wage determination. (All India Customs Ministerial Employees' Federation Kolkata)
It is submitted that in the present system, DA does not provide 100% neutralization for inflation. In any case, determination of the pay scales should also take into account the changing organizational objectives and job requirements, changes in the socio-economic environment and genuine aspirations of the employees for a better standard of living. Therefore, it is absolutely necessary that the present pay scales are revised. (Railway Board Secretariat Service Group 'A' Officers' Association New Delhi)
As the 5th CPC has recommended the DA at 50% merger with the basic pay has led to over crossing the scale of the employee in any grade, the fixation of pay had become problematic. Hence, the present scales have to be revised with a view of minimizing the inflationary effect on the employee and to meet 100% neutralization of the cost of living. (Federation of All India Council of Medical Research (ICMR) Employees Jamia Osmania Hyderabad)
Pay revisions have an important role to fulfill. Pay revisions cater for upward social mobility of an individual. If DA is expected to neutralize the inflation then there is no real earning growth for an individual. In reality the DA does not fully neutralize the inflation and consequently the earnings show a negative growth. Secondly, the DA factor does not help those retiring as the DA earned is not taken into account for determination of his pension. Thirdly, the exercise of a pay commission is a good opportunity to review the manpower policies of the Govt as well as devise a compensation structure for its employees in keeping with the best HR practices available. Lastly revision of pay scales also helps rationalize the pay and allowances of the Govt employees as compared to the private sector. Alternatively the concept of a standing pay review body may be explored to address the issue. (VIth Pay Commission Cell (Army) New Delhi)
Yes. Of course. (Postal and Railway Mail Service Supervisors Association Madurai)
Yes; Pay revision is required periodically to address all relevant issues not only pay but also of service conditions comprehensively. (Central Institute of Fisheries Nautical and Engineering Training Kochi)
Inflation around the globe cannot be tamed by installing any commissions neutralization of inflation is never possible for the growing needs and necessities of the employees/people. Hence we suggest periodically pay revision in every 5-years, considering vast and speedy economic evaluation round the globe. (The Senior Core of ISRO Satellite Centre Bangalore)
Yes. The neutralization of inflation is based on the cost of living index which does not and cannot reflect the actual inflation that takes place. In the case of Central Govt employees, unlike in the case of the other sections of the organized working class, the compensation is based on the All India Annual Average Index figure, which has an inbuilt mechanism of suppressing the said compensation. (The Survey of India Stenographers' Forum Hyderabad)
12.1 Yes (All India Defence Employees EME Technical Association New Delhi)
Scale revision at least after a decade is a requirement of updating the scales to take care of changes in the cost of living and environment which is always substantial even after 100% neutralisation for inflation available in form of dearness allowance. The best and time-tested criteria for judging it is variation in price of gold. (Consumers Investors and Commuters' Welfare Association Ghaziabad)
Yes. The neutralization of inflation is based on the cost of living index which does not and cannot reflect the actual inflation that takes place. In the case of Central Government employees, unlike in the case of the other sections of the organized working class, the compensation is based on the all India annual average index figure, which has an inbuilt mechanism of suppressing the said compensation. This apart, the changes in the consumption pattern affected over a period of time have to be an important criterion for wage determination. (Non Gazetted Govt. Officers' Association Andaman and Nicobar)
100% neutralization is justified, even though price-rise is not proportionate to the basic pay. It is equal to all in terms of rupee-value. So, 100% neutralization of DA is correct. (Statistical and Scientific Employee's Association New Delhi)
Pay scale to be framed not only upon the basis of inflation rate, but also a target should be there for upgradatlon of standards of living in Govt. employees in commparison to the private sector employees within justice, scope and limits of financial and ethical provisions of the Govt. (Medical Staff Association Kolkata)
There is a need to revise the pay scales periodically despite Dearness Allowance. Dearness allowance does not take into account the huge increase in the salary of counterparts in the private sector on account of booming economy and the general rise in prices for land, building, cost of travel and other trends in the economy. More over pay scales which looked attractive 10 years ago, have become terribly unattractive now and not many bright, young, honest persons would be attracted to government service with current pay scales. Since it will be difficult to foresee salary trends and other ecpnomic parameters 10 years in advance, there is need to revise pay scales in government periodically to reflect market trends. (Indian Postal and Telecom Accounts and Finance Service Group A Officers Association New Delhi)
It should be ensured that once 100% inflation is exceeding, a committee should be formed to analyze the revision of pay scales. However, the govt. should take necessary steps for not reaching 100% inflation at a shorter period of not less than 10 years. (Draughtsmen Association of Directorate General of Quality Assurance (DGQA) Ministry of Defence Chennai)
Inflation is not only the criterion for Revision of Pay Scale. It shall be appropriate to revise the Pay Scale once in every 10 years. (Andaman & Nicobar Islands State Forest Service Association Andaman & Nicobar Islands)
Revision pay scales: It is a myth that the dearness pay neutralizes the inflation A fixation and revisions pay scale is an ongoing need as the government machinery is not as flexible as the private or public sector More over economic changes are faster nowadays It is therefore suggested that the pay scales may be reviewed and revised after every 5 years instead of ten years (All India Defence Employees EME Technical Supervisors Association New Delhi)
Response: Yes. Pay scale is the reference on the basis of which all allowances and entitlements are calculated. Moreover, even for DA calculation the basic pay is the reference and 100% neutralization is on the basic pay. Taking into account all these factors very old Pay scales will not help in effectively neutralizing the inflation. (Defence Electronics Applications Lab. Ministry of Defence Dehradun)
Ans: Increments are given in recognition to seniority in service of an employee. This should not be subjected to any condition or suspended / withdrawn / forfeited provided he has been able to render required service in the preceding year. It should continue to be given on yearly basis as is at present. This increment should be termed as Annual Increment not a General Increment. So far the rate is concerned; we like to hold that no principle or criteria has been evolved as yet for quantifying the rate of increment. Some short of adhocism is governing the rate. Hence, an attempt be made to determine a principle or criteria in this regard on the basis of liking the Increment with the length of service rendered by an employee. Pending such determination, we, however, propose to fix it at 6% for all. (Delhi Nurses Union Delhi)
Due weightage should be given for the employees whoo put in longer period of service by introducing slabs. (Government of India Department of Publication Delhi)
Yes periodic revision of pay scale is essential irrespective of neutralization to overcome and absorb the changes and implement new methodology considering faster changes globally. (Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) All India Administrative Officers Association Pune)
Yes. The reason are as follows: (a) 100% neutralization of hike in price, in effect does not increase the salary fixed at and pegged with a particular index number. It only compensates the erosion of purchasing capacity of salary once fixed. It may so happen that the salary once fixed was not proper and justified. And this is an irrefutable reality in almost all the cases in our country, (b) Cent percent compensation is not available to the employees in our country as yet as because the existing concept of cent percent neutralization is deceptive. Here erosion of purchasing capacity of basic pay is taken into account but not of the D.A. (c) Method of computing Consumer Price Index (CPI) is defective. A general trend of concealing the actual price hike has been noticed and repeatedly pointed out by the Trade Union Movement. (d)Consumer's Bas does not reflect the reality, (e) Even if the wrongs and inadequacies as pointed out in this paragraph are corrected, the need of Periodical Pay Revision will remain unchanged. It must be kept in mind that with the change of time, human needs are changing; updating of needs and consequent upgradation of living conditions is an ongoing process in human society. Endless onward March of the humanity is the established scientific law of continuous development of society and civilization. In view of this, upgradation of economic level and earnings of the workers and employees commensurate to the development of society is essential. Hence, the need of Regular and Periodical Revision of Pay is an irrefutable need of the society. (Delhi Administration Stenographers' Welfare Association Delhi)
DA should be based on consumer price index and not wholesale price index. Cities like Mumbai, Delhi etc. have become very expensive and pay should be 30% higher in these cities (Forward Markets Commission Ministry of Consumer Affairs Mumbai)
Running Pay scale with variable increment as suggested above, with 100% neutralization of DA, if implemented then the need for periodical increase of Pay scales is minimized. However, in the long run the gap in pay between the Private and Public sector undertaking vis-a-vis Government sector would widen as the former gets periodic increase in their pay structure every 5 years. Therefore it would be more pragmatic to have permanent Wage Board to monitor status of employees and to redress their grievances and to recommend to the Government on matters relating to retirement benefits. This will also obviate the need for periodic Pay Commissions who have to go through the whole gamut of data collection, synthesis and formulation of ideas, recommendation based on which need not necessarily be satisfying to all the parties involved. (Geological Survey of India Scientific Officers Association (GSISOA) Marine Wing Mangalore)
Pay Scale should be revised on 100% dearness allowance. (Jharkhand State Stenographers Association Jharkhand)
Yes. The neutralization of inflation is based on the coast of living index which does not and cannot reflect the actual inflation that takes place. In the case of Central Government employees, unlike in the case of the other sections of the organized working class, the compensation is based on the all India annual average index figure which has an inbuilt mechanism of suppressing the said compensation. This apart, the changes in the consumption pattern effected over a period of time have to be an important basis for wage determination. (Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) Staff Association)
Increase in DA is an attempt to neutralize the inflation that too in respect of few essential consumables only. Whereas increment/pay scale revision is a indicator of progress. (Defence Quality Assurance Officers Association (DGQA))
a) DA. should be based on the CPI. The basket of the goods and service used by middle class govt. employees through a special survey by Labour Bureau be introduced and revised after every five years to enable an employee to maintain good quality of life. (All India Census Employees Association New Delhi)
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Posted - 11/19/2008 : 18:52:43
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latest news on from the Sixth Pay Commission. It is regarding the Child Care Leave:
Below, we presnt the text as it appears on the Office Memorandum Ministry of Personnel, Public Grievances and Pensions Department of Personnel & Training. Though utmost care has been taken to replicate teh text as it is, but E&OE. Wikipedia on Sixth Pay Commission Ministry Site
Subject : Child Care Leave in respect of Central Government employees as a result of Sixth Central Pay Commission - clarification regarding -
The order regarding introduction of Child Care leave (CCL) in respect of Central Government employees were issued vide this Department's O.M. of even number dated 11th September, 2008. Subsequently, clarification in this regard were also issued vide O.M. dated 29th September, 2008.
2. Consequent upon the implementation of orders relating to Child Care Leave, references has been received from various sections regarding the procedure for grant of this leave etc. In this connection, it is mentioned that the intention of the Pay Commission in recommending Child Care Leave for women employees was to facilitate women employees to take care of their children at the time of need. However, this does not mean that CCL should disrupt the functioning of Central Government offices. The nature of this leave was envisaged to be the same as that of earned leave. Accordingly, while maintaining the spirit of Pay Commission's recommendations intact and also harmonizing the smooth functioning of the offices, the following clarifications are issued in consultation with the Department of Expenditure (Implementation Cell) with regard to Child Care Leave for Central Government employees:-
i) CCL cannot be demanded as a matter of right. Under no circumstances can any employee proceed on CCL without prior proper approval of the leave by the leave sanctioning authority.
ii) The leave is to be treated like the Earned Leave and sanctioned as such.
iii) Consequently, Saturdays, Sundays, Gazetted holidays etc. falling during the period of leave would also count for CCL, as in the case of Earned Leave.
iv) CCL can be availed only if the employee concerned has no Earned Leave at her credit.
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S.ravi
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Posted - 11/21/2008 : 21:14:52
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Introduction of nonfunctional grade PB-2 (Rs.9300-34800) GP Rs.5400 for Private Secretaries Grade-I in existing scale Rs.7500-12000{PB-2(Rs.9300-34800) GP Rs.4800}
http://indianrailways.gov.in/PC/PC6/RBE_185_08.pdf |
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Posted - 12/13/2008 : 01:31:03
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No.195 No.E(P&A)1-2008/CPC/LE-8 58 Child Care Leave (CCL) in respect of Railway Servants as a result of Sixth Central Pay Commission - clarification regarding .
http://www.indianrailways.gov.in/PC/PC6/RBE195_58_08.pdf |
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Posted - 01/01/2009 : 07:59:04
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Seperate pay commission for armed forces
New Delhi (PTI): In a major New year bonanza for the armed forces, the Prime Minister's Office has informed the Defence Ministry that the armed forces personnel would henceforth have a separate pay commission, which is delinked from the civilian pay panel.
In a communication to the Defence Ministry the PMO also granted the demand for placing 12,000 odd Lieutenant Colonels under equivalence in Navy and Air Force in the pay band four of the sixth central pay commission.
However, the PMO, which considered the recommendations of the ministerial committee headed by External Affairs minister Pranab Mukherjee, said that the pay band four status with a grade pay of Rs 8000 would be accorded to Lieutenant Colonels who were performing a combat role or were ready for combat.
Those Lieutenant Colonels on deputation to other services would receive the pay band four status only when they return to their parent service.
Another demand accepted by the PMO concerned the jawans, for whom the government would restore the 70 per cent pensionary weightage.
Till the government implements the sixth pay commission's recommendations for allowing retired armed forces personnel's lateral entry into paramilitary and central police forces, the 70 per cent weightage would continue.
The present PMO communication, sent to the Defence Ministry in the last week of December, however, is silent on the two other core demands of the armed forces: placing the Lieutenant Generals in the higher administrative grade plus pay scales and bringing grade pay of officers from Captains to Brigadiers on par with their civilian counterparts.
But, conceding to the Defence personnel's demand the PMO said it would set up a high powered committee to review the command and control functions, and the status of the armed forces vis-a-vis that of their civilian and paramilitary counterparts.
Though Defence Ministry assumed that the PMO's communication is a fiat to the armed forces, the nitty gritty of implementing them would have to be worked out in concert with the services headquarters, officials said.
After the Cabinet decided in August to implement the sixth pay commission from September last year, the armed forces had raised the "anomalies" and sought a political decision on it.
At one point, the services headquarters had in an unprecedented move refused to implement the cabinet decision, causing a lot of embarrassment to the government. The services chief had time and again stated that the pay commission "anomalies" were not about money but about status and command and control issues.
Consequently, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh intervened and set up the ministerial committee which had Defence Minister A K Antony and Home Minister P Chidambaram as members.
The committee had submitted its report to the PM in the middle of December 2008.
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Posted - 01/03/2009 : 05:56:30
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President okays her own salary hike by three times
3 Jan 2009, 1713 hrs IST, PTI
NEW DELHI: President Pratibha Patil has approved the law giving her a three-fold hike in salary taking her pay cheque to Rs 1.5 lakh from Rs 50,000
per month in the New Year.
She also gave her assent to another law that will hike the monthly salary of vice-president M H Ansari's salary from Rs 40,000 to Rs 1.25 lakh per month.
The hike comes a year after the cabinet considered a proposal seeking an increment to the salary of India’s First Citizen and enhancing post-retirement benefits for former presidents and vice-presidents.
Earlier, the Cabinet Committee on Economic Affairs (CCEA), chaired by Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, had taken a decision to rationalise the salaries.
The hike comes close on the heels of government announcing a bonanza for its employees by implementing the recommendations of the Sixth Pay Commission report under which a secretary at the centre will draw Rs 80,000 a month.
Immediately after the hike was announced, President Pratibha Patil contributed a month's salary to the Prime Minister's National Relief Fund towards the relief and rehabilitation of those affected by Bihar floods.
The salary of president, which was fixed at Rs 10,000 in the Constitution, was gradually raised to Rs 50,000 a month in 1998 with effect from January 1, 1996.
Almost everything that the President does or wants to do is taken care of by the annual Rs 22.5-crore budget that the government allots for his upkeep.
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